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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

check for lead foot!
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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha not at all... i always pretend there's an egg between my foot and the pedal, which has made a huge difference on my ford escape (about 4l/100km difference!) ... i treat my bug like a baby
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been busy but planning to give it a once over this weekend, however my distributor is a 009 (no vacuum advance), and I've looked online and all the 74s with AH type engines (California model?) have a vacuum advance with one (or two) hose... what was the stock one with the engine?

And am I better to simply replace the entire distributor with a Pertronix type (and if so, are there different types?)? I really like the idea of electronic ignition...

I found this post on the Samba:

"I assume that this is your distributor, but you need to check the number embossed on the side.... from www.oldvolkshome.com

Beetle 1974 * 1600 Federal Manual Trans

Distributor: VW 043-905-205, Bosch 0231 170 034
Can Use: VW 113-905-205AL, Bosch 0231 146 101, VW 043 905 205 ZB (Mexico) (See Note Below)
Points: 01 011
Condensor: 02 074
Rotor: 04 033
Dust Cover: 039-905-241, Bosch 1230 500 139 > 1230 500 147
Cap: 03 010
Spark Plug: W8AC
Timing Set At:: 7.5deg BTDC @ 800-950rpm w/strobe and w/single vacuum hose disconnected and plugged
Advance/Retard Range: Vacuum: 8-12deg Adv; Centrifugal: 7-12deg @ 1600rpm, 20-25deg @ 3800rpm
NOTE: Volkswagen (with Bosch's help) now makes this distributor in Mexico and is available brand new and ready to install. Please click this link:Beetle (Puebla, Mexico) With Points Distributor to view the specs."

Appreciate your thoughts!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

although a 009 distributor is a performance (actually a stationary motor dist.) i doubt its gonna drop your milage down to 16 mpg. i thought this was all stock? vacuum advance can usually add 3-4 mpg. me thinks you have a bigger problem.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pertonics dist. have dubious advance curves,iirc a 74 had the dual advance retard dist from factory
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, yes I thought it was all stock too, and it looks to be except the distributor... gonna try the plugs and things first over the weekend and take it from there... always an adventure!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just grabbed a set of 4 NGK: B5HS spark plugs... they were on sale and apparently a direct replacement for the Bosch W8AC, but with copper core.

Car seems to start and go better already.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

can you post pictures of the old plugs?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They were in pretty good shape for their age, no strange signs of abnormal wear. They were Super Bosch WR8AC I believe... (already got rid of them)
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tan colored insulator??
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't recall, perhaps more of an off white... why may I ask?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you were running way rich, they'd be black and sooty. Tan is ideal.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A quick update - car is running much better and fuel economy is improving. I'm still going to replace the distributor with a stock one with the vacuum to keep it 100% original.

Otherwise all good!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought some new 2" hose from Chris for the heater, and replaced the warm air intake hose (it was mangled)... car starts much better now and doesn't want to stall at lights nearly as much. I found that I'm missing this (in bold):

"The intake air pre-heating system added yet another hose, at 2" the largest of the several hoses to the air cleaner. This hose, which is the same size as the fresh air hoses to the fan shroud, collects warm air from the #2 cylinder by way of an L-shaped tube underneath the engine tin. This warm air is then routed up to the air cleaner."

I wonder if I can fabricate something out of an old tin can (apparently that's the answer)...
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or you could get one of the L shaped tubes...I think I've got a few kicking around.
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