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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it'll be very hard to open her up for an 86mm crank dude. I almost went throught the top on my 82mm crank. Check out this 88x94---->http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=93580
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure if you've heard about the SSB(Super S**T BOX) but you'll have a nice combo if you read the January 2000 VWTrends issue pages 86-88 and copy it. I've met Mark Herbert at Mission Raceway and his brother(Mike, I think he works at Rancho or something). Marks the guy who has proved thousands wrong about cast cranks and weird combos like the 1835cc and the age old 94 cylinder myth. He also wrote some of those pages on the Cal-look engine page.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

66beetle wrote:
Marc had to take 40 thou off his cam for the 82mm crank in his 2275. And that was with the proper Scat I-Beam rods. If you use stock rods you'll probably have to clearance them as well.

I prefer the 2110 as they're stronger than the motors built with the 94mm cylinders, but still plenty big. If you want to build a Honda eater, build a strong 2110 and then turbo it. 250HP easy. It's damn near impossible to beat a Honda with a normally aspirated ACVW. Even a tricked out 2332 with dual 48s will only push around 160HP normally aspirated.


you building for other people here marc???
a few people want to know?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An 82 crank requires some minor clearancing of the case. Longer strokes will require more clearancing and weaken the case even more. A case bored out for 94 jugs will expose the very tips of the case saver teeth.
Either way, you're weakening the case. The real question is where you want to weaken it. I've only once seen a case saver pulled out because of 94mm cylinder bores, and that was durring assembly, so that case probably wasn't strong enough to last long anyways. I've never seen a case failure due to overclearancing, but I have seen a broken cam.
When you're doubling the displacement of an engine, things break. It's not a matter of if something breaks, it's when something will break.
I like the 2275 combo aswell, but I haven't owned one so I don't know how well they hold up over time.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This won't happen if you bore the case for 90.5 and machine down the 94's for 90.5 size. This way the case savers aren't exposed and thus strengthens the case.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This won't happen if you bore the case for 90.5 and machine down the 94's for 90.5 size. This way the case savers aren't exposed and thus strengthens the case.


Doesn't that end up giving the bottom of the jugs thinner walls than 92's? You still get blowby issues, but only at the bottom of the stroke. I'm not sure how I feel about that. When I first read that, I thought it was a joke, but now I'm not so sure. How thick does that leave the walls once they're machined. I worked it out that they'd be less than a mm thick.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This keeps the strength there(piston skirt) due to the thickness in the case. The case is way stronger than the cylinder.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is from one of the fastest Kadron guys in the nation. AJ Sims. You might have heard from him Question Have a look at the link---->http://www.lowbugget.com/pistonpage.html Check out his site. He is also one of the best head porters in the world
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

interesting.... now I want to make a big turbo motor.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a link that lets you adjust various bits and pieces as you contemplate what to build.

http://www.chirco.com/buildascreamer/buildascreamer.htm

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was fun but i wish there was a type 4 section.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what about the option of a type-4 converted to upright cooling?

That, or I could sell ya a Corvair to VW adapter Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drew wrote:
That, or I could sell ya a Corvair to VW adapter Wink


no thanks. I am quite partial to aircooled vw motors. I think if I was going to go with an alternative engine. It would be Subaru.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

like a Vanagon Double Cab Syncro STI....
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drew wrote:
what about the option of a type-4 converted to upright cooling?

That, or I could sell ya a Corvair to VW adapter Wink
Here maybe http://www.tunacan.net/t4/tech/upright.htm or here at http://www.massivetype4.com/
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